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Rental for John’s Hill, Waterford in 1831-40: Small Sources No. 7.

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These 17 waterford John's hilltenants are listed in the ‘Ledger Accounts’ of the Paul Estate.  It also shows the annual rental amount.   John’s Hill is now part of Waterford city but at the time would have been outside the city.  The houses are of very variable sizes as is evident from the rental amounts which vary from £1 to £155.    The original ledger  is in the Paul Estate records in the National Library of Ireland NLI: Ms. 12,985.  The Paul Estate had holdings in several counties, principally Kerry and Carlow but also some holdings in County Waterford.  Further information on the estates of this family can be found on the Landed Estates Database.

The names are listed as spelled, and with the abbreviations used, e.g. Patk. = Patrick, Edwd. = Edward etc.     Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Waterford SS7’ in the subject line.

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Tenants on Ram Estate, Gorey, Co. Wexford in 1826 (Small Sources No. 6)

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This is another list wewexford-ram-rental-7-ms-823818 found in research for a planned guide to tracing ancestors in County Wexford.  See our existing titles here.    This list is from a single-sheet rental of part of the estate of Abel Ram Esq. in county Wexford for 1826.  It shows tenant’s names, location, acres held, and yearly rent. The holdings vary from 2 to 152 acres and rents vary from ~£2 to £200.  The properties are mainly in the Gorey area (Civil parishes of Liskinfere, Kilmacilloge, Kilcavan and Kilnahue) and one property is in Finglas, Dublin. The original is in the National Library of Ireland Ms.8238 (18).
The names are listed as spelled, and with the abbreviations used, e.g. Reps. = Representatives;  Robt. = Robert  etc.   Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Wexford SS6’ in the subject line.
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Small Sources 5: Labourers in Kilcavan Parish, Wexford 1850.

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This is a swx-meyler-estate-labourers-nli-ms-5356mall list we found in research for a planned guide to tracing ancestors in County Wexford. It shows 37 labourers or workmen on the Thomas Meyler Estate in the townland of Harristown, Parish of Kilcavan, Wexford in 1850.  It is in a Workmen’s account book which shows the dates worked and payments made to each worker in May 1850. Payments vary from 4d (pence) to 12d (12 pence,  which equals 1 shilling) per day with women at 4d and most males paid 6d plus. Lists of workmen are useful as they tend to be difficult to find in the records.  They are arranged in couples or family groups as indicated below with one page per individual or group (with some exceptions as in the illustration).

The original is in National Library of Ireland Ms. 5356. As usual, if you make a connection with anyone on this list, we would be interested to hear. Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here  and quote ‘Wexford SS5’ in the subject line.
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Culture Night at the Irish History Hub at O’Shea’s Merchant in Dublin’s Viking Quarter

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We hope you can join us at the Irish History Hub in O’Shea’s Merchant on Culture Night, Friday, 16 September.  Opening Hours are from 5:00pm to 9:00pm.  We will be providing talks on how to trace your elusive Irish ancestors and you can also speak with professional genealogists on hand to help you with your research and advise you on how to break down those research brick walls.  More information can be provided on the link below.  We hope to see you there!

http://www.culturenight.ie/dublin_event/genealogy-sessions-osheas-merchant/

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Small Sources 4: Tenants of Quansbury Estate (Galway) 1777-78

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This is a reQuansbury (642x800)ntal document among the estate papers of Francis Thomas FitzMaurice, 3rd Earl of Kerry, which are held in the Archives Nationales, Paris (Fonds T. Cote 451 (6)). A microfilm copy is in the National Library of Ireland No. P7239. It shows 35 tenants of the Quansbury Estate which is in the Civil Parish of Kilquain, Co Galway in 1777/8. Some properties are in neighbouring parishes. Information on the Kilquane estate is at: http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=1254).
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In this document, and many others,  the property name is spelt Quansbury but on Ordnance Survey maps it is spelt Quainsborough. Some comments in parentheses are included for explanation.   The property was owned by Denis Daly from 1722, and later passed by inheritance to the Earl of Louth. Why the document is within these estate papers is unclear. The rents vary from £237 to £3.10.0.  It also includes ‘observations’ on tenants or lettings. Those with higher rents are likely to be middlemen (who sublet the property to others) or large farmers.  Some tenants rent several properties. Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Galway SS4′  in the subject line.
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Small Sources 2: Tarbert (Co. Kerry) schoolchildren in 1809

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This list Kerry: List of Pupils at Tarbert Charter school 1809. NLI Ms 17,935 (5).of 39 schoolchildren in Tarbert, Co. Kerry in 1809 was originally posted on the Flyleaf Press blog in Aug 2013.  The original is in the National Library  among the Dr. Michael Quane Papers (Ms. 17,935) which are titled  ‘Letters and papers of Commissioners of Education in Ireland relating to Erasmus Smith foundations’.   The document is a single page headed  ‘A list of the Scholars educating (sic) at the English school founded at Tarbert by the Governors of Erasmus Smith’s Schools. May 1809‘ and is  signed by Aust? Martin,  who may have been the teacher.  An unusual name on the list appears to be ‘Fowlone’ which is reportedly a variant of Folan (see www.johngrenham.com).
If you make a connection, we would love to hear about it.  Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Kerry SS2′  in the subject line.

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Small Sources 1: Wexford Estate Workers and Suppliers 1856

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This was our very first ‘Small Sources’, originally posted on our Flyleaf Press web-page in 2013,  but now being repeated on  this page.   This list is of those mentioned in the farm accounts of the Wingfield Estate in the Wex Labourer payments Symes Estate, Wingfield 1857-9Civil Parish of Kilpipe, near Gorey Co. Wexford in 1856-57. They include day-labourers, suppliers and a few customers for farm produce. The original manuscript is in the National Library of Ireland Ms 19,004.  The item supplied or purchased is also noted as this may be useful.  For instance,  Robert Leggett supplied the farm with ‘ointment to cure a cow’, salt and oatmeal which suggests he was a local retailer.  Labourers and small tradesmen are particularly difficult individuals to find in the records so hopefully this list may be useful to someone. If you can make a connection, please let us know.    Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Wexford SS1′ in the subject line.

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Small Sources 20: Tenants in Pudding Lane, Thurles, Co. Tipperary 1816/17

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These 33 people were tenants of Thomas Lenegan in Pudding Lane, Thurles, Co. Tipperary  in 1816/17.  This is one of the main streets in the town but has since been renamed ‘O’Donovan Rossa Street’.  It is unclear if the premises were residences or businesses.   The list is among the Lenegan Estate papers in the National Library of Ireland (NLI Ms. 497).  Lenegan had estates in Thurles, Co. Tipperary; Thomastown, Co. Kilkenny;  and elsewhere.
The list below shows the tenant’s names and the yearly rent.  The full list also shows the arrears due in November 1816.  The names are listed as spelled, and with the abbreviations used, e.g. Jas. = James, Danl. = Daniel etc.  One of the unusual names listed is Lanty Ryan.  However,  a Lant Ryan is listed as a householder in Thurles in the Griffith Valuation (~1848),  although on a different street. The illustrations show a section of the original rental (above) and the Rental title (at end).
Ancestor Network will offer 1 free hour of research by a professional researcher to  conduct further research on these individuals or obtain copies. Click here and quote ‘Tipperary SS20′ in the subject line.

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Irish Grand jury presentments

Irish Grand Jury Presentments

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From Grand Jury Presentments KK 1832

Caption for illustration:    Extract from the Grand Jury Presentments of Kilkenny in Spring 1832.

Here is Dr. James Ryan’s latest blog from In-Depth Genealogist which first appeared on http://theindepthgenealogist.com/blog/ in June 2016”

Grand Jury Presentments

As Dr James Ryan has said in previous Flyleaf Press blogs, the relative shortage of Irish sources means that every record linking a name to a place is potentially useful.  He therefore offers you a few obscure possibilities from time to time.  One such source is Grand Jury Presentments.  Grand Juries were the forerunners of the modern County Councils.  They were a panel of major landowners in each county formed to make decisions on legal and other matters. They were originally responsible only for the Justice system, but this was gradually expanded to commissioning of local public works, i.e. building of roads and bridges, and maintenance of public buildings (infirmaries, courthouses, jails etc).  It funded these works by means of a county tax on land, known as a cess or ‘rates’.  Catholics could not legally serve on grand juries until 1793, and even after this date the jury lists were still predominantly protestant.   They met in spring and summer, just after the regular Assizes (local court) sessions. In these sessions they would hear ‘presentments’, i.e. proposals for grants for the construction or maintenance of roads and bridges etc. The family history relevance is that the proposals include the names of proposed contractors.   On occasion, they may also specify the work to be done by reference to the property of individuals.  For example to build a bridge over the river Lingane at Maurice Shea’s house’ or ‘to repair .. the mail coach road.. between Timothy Duggan’s ditch and Thomas Butler’s gate, all in the townland of Ballydrihid’ (Both from Limerick GJP 1831) Read More

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